Episode 16 Interview with Richard Rossiter

Coverart image with text describing Episode 16 my interview with Richard Rossiter.

This week, I get to be a bit of a fan girl as I interview Richard Rossiter. Richard is the creator of a bodywork, pain relief protocol known as The Rossiter System. You may have heard me talk about it when I interviewed Janet Klose in Episode 7. She is our local Space Coast Rossiter Practitioner, and we are lucky to have her. Janet has used the protocol on me to relieve shoulder and neck pain that in the past cost me over $1500 and weeks of painful laser and scraping treatments.

Richard was visiting us here on the Space Coast as he launches his latest product EVE – a vibrational technology at Janet’s Therapeutic Massage Center. I was thrilled to sit down with him and talk about the history of the Rossiter System along with the new technology he is rolling out.

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Learn more about The Rossiter System and Richard Rossiter at https://therossitersystem.com/.

Find information about EVE at https://rossitereve.com/

Richard mentioned his books. What I find currently available on Amazon are:

Step Out of Pain the Rossiter Way Overcoming Repetitive Motion Injuries the Rossiter Way

Takeaways from My Interview with Richard Rossiter

Richard provided more details to help me understand why this therapy works so well and so fast. First, the idea that our body needs to be involved in the healing of the pain. Using the weight of the practitioner and our own movement, we heal our own pain. Others can’t simply “fix” us. We have to move through the pain and heal ourselves.

Using his new EVE vibrational machine, we can work on our whole body at once instead of targeting only one area. As I shared, the day I used the machine, I wasn’t in pain, but still felt like my shoulder and other body areas were more relaxed. I also was able to witness some amazing results with others including a friend who had a headache that was completely gone after less than 4 minutes.

Complete Transcript of My Interview with Richard Rossiter

Kim:                             00:00                You’re listening to Space Coast Stories, a podcast with interviews and stories from people and businesses on Florida’s Space Coast. I’m your host, Kim Shivler. Thanks for joining me.

Kim:                             00:15                Hey everybody on the Space Coast. Welcome to Space Coast Stories. I’m your host Kim Shivler, and today I’m really excited with a guest who’s not actually from the Space Coast, but he’s visiting us with a very exciting bodywork technology. Welcome Richard Rossiter,

Richard:                        00:35                Howdy.

Kim:                             00:36                Richard. First tell me you are the creator of the Rossiter method, which is a bodywork methodology. Let’s start with that and then we’ll get to your new technology that you’re rolling out.

Richard:                        00:48                Sure, sure. So in 1983 I became a Rolfer and what I was fortunate enough to do and I, uh, I started, I was able to work with a neurosurgeon, neurologist. And what happened was I was, I was being able to work and help a lot of people, but I was dissatisfied with the level that I was able to help them with. And so I asked the doctor if he would allow me to, to go off script. You might say rolfing is a very set series that you do and you do 10 of them. And so what I had was I had a clientele of these basically, uh, the medical term is basket cases with this neurologist. And then on the other hand I had my normal people and so what would happen is I had a group of people that were very good at describing what it was that they got out of each and every move that I did with them.

Richard:                        01:56                And so I would do one thing with them and they would say, this is what happened. I started collecting more data, more specific data about each thing that I did where it affected a person in their body. And so when I would learn something new, I would apply it to the people who were at my basket cases in a lot of times my basket cases. I could also turn around and utilize that information for my regular clients. And so what happened was, through the years, what I did was I started realizing that there were other, more powerful ways of being able to address certain symptoms that a person had. I found out that shots typically are there a nebulous scarring in the body. And so, you know, I always got better results if the person never got shots. Of course I always got better results when a person who didn’t have surgery, when a person would come in and it didn’t quite seem to be there, then you know, then start questioning them some more and you’d find out, uh, there were a particular pills.

Richard:                        03:03                So. So it kind of became my mantra that pills, shots, and surgery, you know, you would, you want to stay away from that as much as possible simply because those distort what the body’s inflammation, what the body and its information is giving you. Okay. And pain. I basically came to the conclusion that pain is nothing more than information. That’s all it is. If we were born to have surgery, then we’d have little zippers all over our body. But we don’t . Shots – you don’t put things into your body in a hole in the side of you. I mean, it just doesn’t make sense to me. And so this doctor was more than willing to be able to work with me and as I was going along with that, uh, and, and collecting this data and becoming more accurate, and I saw that my practice was much more powerful for the people that I was using.

Richard:                        03:57                I started to go out and I thought I would start teaching this. So along came what was originally the Rossiter program, became the Rossiter system. I ended up systematizing everything in it and in to all the way up to the, the, uh, the last part that I did, which was Pain Slayer Series. What I did in the very beginning though is I went out to these venues and I would advertise that, you know, here’s how to get out of pain. Well, guess who showed up at all? Those places, all those places where the same people that went to the neurosurgeon that had run out of options, they had done everything. They had had two, three, four, five, even six and seven surgeries. They had gone to the neurosurgeons and now they were out there and they were looking for anything to be able to get them out of pain.

Richard:                        04:48                And so in about 1989 when I was working, uh, in, uh, Fayetteville, Arkansas, I think it was, some guy walked in, I had a class going on and he walked in and he ducked to get in the doorway and his wife was tiny. I mean five foot two, you know, just maybe, maybe 105 pounds soaking wet. And I looked at them and I knew is he was in pain and I thought there’s no way she is going to be able to help him and because I knew what I had to what people were doing. And so what I was doing at that time was I was, I was showing people how to do it on the floor so that they could do it at home and they were using their fists. And so what I did was I started the class up and after I started the class I said, okay, I’m going, here’s what I’m going to let you guys start here.

Richard:                        05:40                And I gave them direction. Then I went over to him and her and I said, okay, you’re going to have to use your feet because there’s just no way you will kill yourself trying to fix your husband. And so she started to use her feet and I showed her how to do it. And one of the other class mates came over and looked at me and says, how come we can’t do it that way? And I looked at her already to scold her and say, well you get back to work or you know, that kind of thing happened. And I looked at it and I said, good point. And literally that was the last time I taught with my hands. And so since then the Rossiter System is completely a foot technique to be done on the floor with a person and you add weight, you don’t add pressure.

Richard:                        06:25                There’s a big difference between pushing on someone and just allowing the weight of the practitioner to be put on them, and so that became absolute paramount that you use weight. The next thing that I found that was a absolutely paramount was that you include movement in everything that they do in the movement is not from the practitioner. Practitioners tend to have a habit of moving their people for them. You know, they flipped their arm over their head or they move them, do things like that, and that’s exactly wrong. What you need to do is have the movement initiated from the person who’s having the work done because when you have, when you have that, then it’s intelligent work that’s being done from inside that body who knows how to move through pain and when you know how to move through pain, you become smarter about it.

Richard:                        07:24                And so you know someone, if you’ve ever had someone just rub you just oh, right there. Yeah, right there. You know, it’s a good pain. And so what happened with this was I started teaching the movements that you need to do to be able to get out of pain to so and so it became this whole system of being able to stretch the connective tissue and keep in mind, I never think in terms of Myofascial, the only thing I think of is connective tissue or Fascia on. I talk about it as connective tissue because that’s what it does. That’s all it does. It connects everything in. It’s around every single cell in our body. And that is an amazing thing to have happened because you can actually feel movement literally. And, and along the way, I had a bunch of Ahas in. One of my Ahas was from a stroke patient and one day she was laying on the table and I just took on the stroke side.

Richard:                        08:25                I took a, uh, a her finger and I just tweaked it. I just turned it a little bit. And at the same time I held onto her toe at don’t know what made me do it. But I held onto her little toe and when I moved the finger, I could feel the movement in the toe. And really that’s what really brought home the idea of connective tissue. It really does connect everything. And so I went and I checked it out on the other side, good side. And I realize it’s there too, but you don’t notice it. You notice it when people are too tight and stroke, people tend to come up on one side, it collapses and it stays short. And so what you want to be able to do with who you’ve got to be able to put that length back in there and without the length, anytime a person is in pain.

Richard:                        09:14                And while I’m talking about pain, I’m talking about structural pain. Structural pain is when you’re talking, anytime it’s a, it’s a, um, like an accident or a, uh, uh, an old, you know, an old wound or, or whatever. Is that. Yeah. And it could be posture, it could be all those things. But as long as it’s structure, if you are missing space, if you are missing space in that area, that’s what’s causing the pain. It is a lack of space that causes pain and so you have to put back the originally designed space into a body or to go away or it’ll never go away. I don’t care how many shots you put in there. I don’t care how many pills you take. I don’t care if you do surgery, if you don’t have the originally designed space in there, it’s always going to say, hey, I hurt.

Richard:                        10:01                And so you have to put the space back. And when, when that happens, the pain goes away immediately. How do I know? Just, you know, 35 years of going after pain. I have learned that if a person participates in, this is huge. This is absolutely huge. If they participate in there, you might say removal of pain than they will get rid of it. They won’t get rid of it. If they just show up and say, you know, fix me. There’s nothing worse than a fixed me because I can’t fix you. You can fix you. I can assist you in fixing you, but I can’t do it. You know, where the pain is. I could study just you the rest of my life and I would not know how to fix your pain. It’s your pain. And so you know all the ins and outs, what you did, where you did it, you know how many things that you might hide from everybody else. You can’t hide it from yourself. And so when you go after it, you have to be able to be willing to go after that pain. And it’s like people that I in my, in my first book overcoming pain, the Rossiter Way, I think it was less, it seemed was. It’s been awhile.

Richard:                        11:14                But uh, I show a hunter downtown. Okay. A hunter and a deer stand downtown and I’m, I’m, I put him there because I wanted people to think really deer, don’t go downtown. They just don’t. And I put a woman in the woods shopping for shoes. There’s no shoes out there. You have to go after them where they’re at. You have to aim at it. And then you have to, if you say pull the trigger, then what you’re doing is you’re working on that pain and and if you work on that pain, powerful enough so that you’re willing to go in there and, and go after it, you will get rid of it. You will not get rid of it. If you sort of go after it, you’re not going to hit the deer if you’re not. If you’re not aiming at the deer. So you have to aim at what you want to get out of your body. If you don’t, you won’t ever get rid of it.

Kim:                             12:06                Thank you for that explanation. And what we’re talking about everybody, just to go a little deeper, is that it’s a bodywork system where as opposed to if you’ve had a traditional massage where you’re laying on the table and they’re working on you. That’s what he was talking about as far as someone just working on you. In this case, you are doing the work. You are on a platform. I’ve had it done. It’s amazing. You’re on a platform. The practitioner puts their foot, whatever area it needs to be on, and then you are going to be doing exercises. I won’t say it’s pain free, but you’re already in pain, so you’re just like you said, you’re moving through it. However, having said that, if you’re someone who’s ever had like deep trigger point type therapy where someone has put an elbow into your muscle at full force, it’s not that kind of pain. It’s much less than that because I think it ties into what I’m hearing you say that it’s your body working through the pain as opposed to someone just torturing you.

Richard:                        13:15                You are participating. That’s the key right there is that you are. You’re going at it from the inside while you’re getting it done from the outside and as long as you’re doing that, what you’re also getting is a highly organizing principle in there. You by you doing that, it’s just not someone mashing on you. It is. It is. You’re going after that pain and and you do it. I like to think of it as erasing something in three d. you’ve got to do it in all directions. You’ve got to go after it. We say if you’re moving your arm, you don’t just move your arm in one direction. You move your arm in all directions to be able to get rid of that pain. You don’t sort of go after it where it’s sort of hurts. You go after where it really hurts, then you are going to get somewhere and you see.

Richard:                        14:02                The thing is is that when, when you do it that way you feel immediate results. Connective tissue give you immediate results when you’re working with that, so that’s the power and the beauty of it is that you know right away whether or not it’s working and whether or not you want to continue, and so you get some people that went out and they go, no, I, you know, I don’t want to do that. Okay, then Rossiter isn’t for you, but if you want to go after your pain and get rid of it and do it that day, then that’s the kind of results you can expect. Now, one of the biggest things that happens in this is if you can imagine when you’re in one area, your whole body has compensated to that area and when it compensates to a certain situation and an area, you have put a new pattern in your body.

Richard:                        14:48                That new pattern is the pattern of pain in body and so until you get rid of that pattern, then you are not. You won’t get rid of the pain. The old pattern. We’ll reinstall into that area and so we have a something in the roster system called locking and what that does is every time you make a move in Rossiter, you also lock the rest of the body so that you stretch out all the kinks in the rest of your body while you were working on that single area. And so every time that that happens, then you are putting a new pattern back into your body. You’re not putting the one that was compensating for the pain that you’ve got. A lot of people, they will get in an original pain 20 years ago and then they spend 20 more years compensating around that. So if you’ve had a knee issue, then it becomes a hip issue, then it becomes a shoulder issue or an elbow issue or something like that all from you trying to stay away from that initial pain and so it’s like an unraveling a great unraveling and it takes a little time because you know if you’ve had it for 20 years then it’s going to take a little bit of time to be able to go after it and to make sure that you’re getting all those little ravels going on in your body.

Richard:                        16:06                What makes the biggest difference is your own participation in this and so when you do have a willing client, then you make incredible progress.

Kim:                             16:15                That makes so much sense because we compensate, right? If you have an injury, we compensate and then that might shorten another muscle and then that’s when you get into trouble. Exactly. Now, what interested me before we move into the new exciting stuff you’ve got was you said you were working for a neurologist. Now, a neurosurgeon. Did he start people with you before they went to surgery or were these post surgery patients?

Richard:                        16:41                These were. These were people that he, I mean, you can imagine the variety that a neurosurgeon surgeon gets. Okay. And, and so what he did for years before that, um, he had been in a group and uh, you know, it’s like a, as a sometimes say if you’re a, if you’re a hammer, every bay looks like a nail. And so he did not like being in the group because everybody in the group wanted to do surgery on everybody that walked in and he did not feel that that was appropriate. And so he had a single practice. And so when he had someone that he just flat knew, you know, he needs something, I’m not sure what it is. And he would send them to me. And so I would start unraveling these incredibly complex cases, you know, six, eight surgeries that would be just say backs, you know, when you’re trying to.

Richard:                        17:37                You’re trying to help someone that’s had surgery the year you were born, you know, it was like and sixth sense, you know, and then, and, and an elbow surgery in a knee surgery and, and you’re trying to help these people out. And there’s some people that you are not going to get all out of pain, but you’re going to make their life more much more tolerable. You’re going to make it much better. You know, nobody has to live with a Migraine as an example. It migraines are easy to get rid of, but you have to understand that their connective tissue related, they are not a chemical imbalance. That’s crap. What you need to be able to do is you need to be able to stretch their connective tissue out to, again, it’s originally designed length and then the pain will go away. You saw that lady start to get up and just a few minutes ago and she came in with a massive migraine and so and so.

Richard:                        18:28                Most of it was gone when she left the. The idea is, is that the neurosurgeon was giving me people that I, I literally learned on his clients and I would report back to them, okay, this is what happened and this is what happened. And, and, and, and so I was getting all of this really great information to the point where I started looking at my own clientele that I was getting and I had a group of people that really worked hard when they came to see me and I had another group that I just did, you know, they were done, you know, it was like, you know, they came in, they laid down, they no participation whatsoever. And I realized that that wasn’t good because what were they doing while they were also out there telling people that I didn’t do any good. Okay. So I just, I literally fired half of my clientele and I, you know, I don’t know, you know, you’re not participating.

Richard:                        19:19                I don’t need you on my side. And so, and then I started to get a really a dedicated group of people that really wanted to get out of pain. And you know, when I first started doing this, I went into factories and I, I taught people how to do it in the factories. I had people who are illiterate, who had no reading skills whatsoever. Uh, I would teach six, eight of them and they would take care of the rest of the factory. And these were dedicated, hardworking people. They would, they would come back say two or three months later and I’d say, so how’s it going? And they would tell me about their worst case and then tell me about their best case and all that. And they were so excited because sometimes their best case was there a worst case and they had and they had like done this little journey together and now they’re out of pain.

Richard:                        20:07                And I would go out and meet them and suddenly I’d be inundated with hugs because these people were getting out of pain and there were so happy. And so I, I went out into these factories in, was, was able to do this on a regular basis and we would literally take care of a factory. And, and it would be people that I would train and it doesn’t take. This is not rocket science, this is, this is easy stuff to be able to learn. And so what I did was, uh, I would teach first, I would teach low backs to everybody, make sure everybody knew how to do a low back and knew how to do the upper arm so that they so that they could get rid of carpal tunnel and things like yell, elbow problems, shoulder problems like that. And so I did that for 10 years.

Kim:                             20:53                That is amazing. And something we’re going to get even shorter in a minute. But one of the things I noticed that I really loved when I had the treatment done is this is not something that you have to be on that table in pain for an hour. This is a 10 minute, 15 minute thing most of the time. And so that helped me a lot as opposed to sometimes where you have trigger point therapy and then all where you’re just being beaten up for 40 minutes an hour. And this time it was, you know, it’s up maybe a couple of minutes as you’re working through it. That’s intense. And then you get up and you walk so that your body can take it in and you relax. And then again, and at the end of 10 to 15 minutes, I can definitely say that when I had it done, I have a history with shoulder injuries and as a writer I am always in a very bad position for my body where our body was not meant to sit at a computer.

Kim:                             21:53                I know that. And yet I do it all day. So when I had it done, it released my shoulder in that one did take about 20 minutes instead of 10 because we did from the shoulder all the way down to the rib cage, the arm, everything on that area and it released. And in that 20 minutes what had taken in the past a series of laser treatment and what is called Graston technology, which is a scraping technology. And it really, really hurts, like wanting to come off the table hurt. So that’s something folks, if you’re thinking about doing this, just know that in 10 minutes you can be rid of your pain and that’s amazing until you go out and mess yourself up again. Like I do on a regular basis and then I have to come back. But now you’re bringing a whole new technology to market. That’s even, to me, more exciting. So tell us about that.

Richard:                        22:51                I brought a market, one of them, one of them all, I’ll just briefly go into, but it’s called Rossiter respiratory and that’s for people who have COPD and uh, asthma, you know, their children have asthma, that kind of thing. And that literally takes two minutes. That is, that is not a very long one, but it is very, very powerful. It short and sweet and you will notice a difference immediately when you, when you sit up, you know, immediately that your lung capacity has increased. So that’s exciting. The other one is eve, eve is short for Essential Vortex Experience and EVE, bless her heart is a, a vibrational system where you take a and they can go to https://rossitereve.com and they can the vortex that I’m talking about and uh, but essentially what it is, is it’s Rossiter on steroids because what you’re doing is you’re taking a vibrational plate and you are, you are stretching a person between the vibrational plate and with that vibrational plate.

Richard:                        24:06                You have them work in while they’re working. They pull all the kinks out all through their body. It is not just in one spot, you’re not going after a shoulder, you’re going after the body every single time. And typically a person stays in it for 40 seconds, maybe 50, and then they walk and they will notice an immediate difference. And if they don’t, they come back, they do it again. If they don’t, they come back, they do it again. A me, you know what happens. I mean, you’re talking about whole three minutes here. And and when they finally get that one side say they can feel the one side and keep in mind this is, this is something that you are holding over your overhead and so your body is stretching out to its max and your stretching out and your leaning and with that stretch out in that lean, you are creating the longest point between your feet and your arms and your hands as possible.

Richard:                        25:06                And so then while that’s happening, than the vortex starts in the vortex, that that, that vibrational, a movement starts going through all, all the tissue in your body and when it goes through all the tissue in your body, that what’s really cool is, is that you start an oscillation in there that you are you. You literally stretch the tissue, but you do it at the level of nanometers nanometers. If you don’t know a nanometer is three gold molecules wide or one hair on a person. The the width of the hair is a 100,000 nanometers. And so you are stretching each and every, hopefully all of the tissues and the ones that are stuck the most are the ones that are going to be the easiest to be pulled apart so that they have, they’re originally designed movement with in relationship to the cells that are around it.

Richard:                        26:10                And so they’re not stuck together. They’re now being freed up. And when they free up like that, now you get your originally designed movement back. And that’s an. Everything happens in terms of Rossiter in the movement. You apply, weight with movement. And, and without that movement, you don’t have a release of the tissue. And once you’ve released the tissue, then suddenly your arm works better, your leg works better, your knee works better. And so that happens literally inside of a literally, probably five minutes. You know, you’re literally, you’re on, you’re on the machine, uh, two minutes max.

Kim:                             26:52                And we saw a lot of that working yesterday. It was really exciting to see. I was that a little of an older gentleman, very hunched over. And when you were done with him, he had to, they had to move his walker up because he was taller, he was standing straighter. I can attest to the breathing. I, you worked on me and, and I don’t have officially asthma or any of that, but I have noticed over the last couple of years I have trouble getting a deep breath and I think it’s, I have a lot of allergies and that kind of thing. And it really messes up my meditation and prayer practice because you’re trying to focus on your breath, which is hard when you can’t breathe. And you worked on me just for not even a full treatment yesterday as we were on the machine and I got off and I said to Janet, I said, I can breathe, I can actually breathe all the way to the bottom of my lungs like I’m supposed to. So this is amazing.

Richard:                        27:48                So these. Yeah. So these are, you know, and, and so I’ve been doing this, uh, you know, now for a 35 plus years in and each time. Uh, I think the biggest thing is, is that people, they’ve been taught to expect that things take a long time to get better. And that’s, that’s not true when you’re working at the level of where the problem is. And the problem typically in most people is the connective tissue system. People do not realize that it is a, it is a third of your body weight or mass. And it is, it is powerful in that when you start changing the connective tissue, suddenly Oregon start working better suddenly can breathe better. Yeah. You know, I mean all kinds of things can happen and we are still exploring what all those things are. We, we literally do not know all the things that I can accomplish it

Kim:                             28:48                Well and that makes sense. We’re, everything is connected in the body. You know, when we look at something like acupuncture, that type of thing, it’s all connected. And so what you’re doing here, you know, you’re not doing needles and that kind of thing, but you added technology that is affecting, as you said, all of that connective tissue. Even if maybe you are specifically targeting your shoulder’s hurting right now, but you’re doing something that’s releasing all of that. And I know when I got on the machine yesterday, I was not insignificant pain the way I sometimes am when I come to see Janet, uh, however I still got off of the machine and could just noticeably tell that my neck, shoulders, were completely loose. Completely. No tension At all. It’s wonderful. And again, if you sit at the computer and type all day, you’re going to have tension. Your shoulders. yeah.

Richard:                        29:43                Got it. I mean, you can’t help but do it. Then most people, you know, they start out with the intent of sitting correctly, but then you start getting into your task, you know, and then you start forgetting about all the things that you were going to do to make yourself comfortable all day long and suddenly, you know, and then you do two or three days of that and then you’re, then you’re really in trouble. You may have migraine, you know, you didn’t go out and walk, you didn’t get out of the audit is your Chair for four hours, you know, that kind of stuff. And so, and this is a, this is an area of, uh, a lot of engineers and sitting at those desks, I can imagine that that would just, you know, they could say, could get totally involved and forget about everything outside of them. And, and you know, five hours later wonder why they feel like a, a little old man or a woman.

Kim:                             30:34                Absolutely, yes. All of my tech friends, you need to come get on this machine because I’ve spent many of my years in tech and absolutely that’s why you’re sitting at that computer all day and then you don’t feel good at night. So everyoNe should be on this. I plan on actually, you know, doing it as maintenance every week or so because it is so fast. You’re on that machine for, you know, as you said a couple of minutes and then you just feel good. So before I tell everyone where they’re going to get to come to have this done on the Space Coast, are there any last minute thoughts you’d like to share with the audience? Richard,

Richard:                        31:10                Give yourself some time between you deciding. One of the things that’s happening now, uh, in, in the world is this opioid crisis and people are getting on pain meds and they’re staying way too long and then they realize, oh, it’s too late and you’ve got relatives out there, you’ve got, you’ve got people out there who are in deep, deep trouble and they need to be doing something like this. This is completely natural. It is something that you have control of the whole time and, and, and you may need more work than more another person who has not had surgery or that. But, but once you’ve been on those meds and you’ve been released from your doctor, of course a come see us because that’s, that’s what’s going to get rid of the pain is you getting back to normal with normal movement. You hAve to get that normal movement back through into your body as much as possible.

Kim:                             32:09                That sounds great. And also I would, I would even say to people, if you’re in pain, you know, outside of a break, I mean a broken hip or something like that. this may be something you want to try it before you go the surgery route.

Richard:                        32:23                Oh yes, absolutely. Totally. Yeah. If you can, you know, so many. There are so many hip replacements out there and they do not need it. They do not need it. Everybody is. Keep in mind the, you know, the, the, the big thing is to, oh, it’s on bone and then, you know, you put the fear of god in him and what happens is that then they decided to do that and there are so many. What we hear about are the good ones. We never hear about the bad ones. The ones that went south on people are the ones that they, uh, they, they destroyed a leg. You need to, you need to try this out before and, and if you are having some issues with your knees now, god, it is so cheap to, can be able to come in and get your knees fixed. I mean, it’s so easy. Those are things that you need to be able to pay attention to sooner than later.

Kim:                             33:15                Thank you for that and I’m just so excited that we have this technology on the Space Coast, that we are the first folks to get this first and only one right now. Hey, if you haven’t, come to see Janet Klose anyway at therapeutic massage, you need to whether you want a massage or this. She is fabulous. She’s also the best priced person in town. In fact, come to her before I get through to her and have her raise her rates. I keep telling her too. You can find Janet in the Glenwood Plaza, Suite One. Oh, three. That’s it. 1049 Eber Boulevard in Melbourne, FL. If you’re heading east on Eber, between between Hollywood and Dairy, it’s going to be just before you get to Dairy, so come check that out. What you do want to do is give Janet a call first at 321-831-5122. And just check that they’re here. And if they are, it’s as simple as walking in. It’s just amazing and the the vibrational technology that Richard used, I’m going to also link us back to my interview with Janet because one thing about it is that it is the same type of tech, a vibrational technology that she uses on her tables, and the benefit of that is it is an elliptical movement, not a compression movement, not an up and down where you where you could actually compressed something.

Richard:                        34:43                It’s that beautiful vortex and it moves in the single plane.

Kim:                             34:46                Yeah, it’s amazing. It’s again, if you haven’t been on that table even come get on that. It’s. It’s wonderful. So thank you so much for being here with me today, Richard and everybody on the Space Coast. I’ll be back next time with another exciting guest doing something cool in our area,

Kim:                             35:03                Join us next time for another episode of Space Coast Stories. You can find the show notes and other information at SpaceCoastStories.com. The views of the guests on this show are their own and don’t necessarily represent the views of the show owners, host or company. Thanks for listening to Space Coast Stories.

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